Comments on: And she’s cute, too! http://geekfeminism.org/2009/09/11/and-shes-cute-too/ Women, feminism, and geek culture Mon, 15 Mar 2010 14:13:31 +0000 hourly 1 By: Juliet Kemp http://geekfeminism.org/2009/09/11/and-shes-cute-too/comment-page-1/#comment-958 Juliet Kemp Wed, 16 Sep 2009 10:57:09 +0000 http://geekfeminism.org/?p=880#comment-958 That's a fascinating article - thank you! That’s a fascinating article – thank you!

]]> By: Mackenzie http://geekfeminism.org/2009/09/11/and-shes-cute-too/comment-page-1/#comment-938 Mackenzie Tue, 15 Sep 2009 04:42:34 +0000 http://geekfeminism.org/?p=880#comment-938 Mark: I'm not sure what you mean by the distro being non-gender-specific, but the reason I felt OK dressing normally was that I'm fairly well established in that developer community. Hacker cons, though? Don't attend 'em without a guy alongside to deflect come-ons. Mark:
I’m not sure what you mean by the distro being non-gender-specific, but the reason I felt OK dressing normally was that I’m fairly well established in that developer community. Hacker cons, though? Don’t attend ‘em without a guy alongside to deflect come-ons.

]]> By: Kat http://geekfeminism.org/2009/09/11/and-shes-cute-too/comment-page-1/#comment-937 Kat Tue, 15 Sep 2009 03:58:00 +0000 http://geekfeminism.org/?p=880#comment-937 I read that differently, and so I see it with a little more charity and less frustration. I see it as "when you aren't the only one and women are commonplace here, you won't be the exotic weirdo who gets attention for being the only one." Not that men swarming female geeks because they are rare is a good thing, but making female geeks non-rare and thus not so interesting as to attract unwanted attention everywhere (as opposed to simply causing the attention to be spread around more) *would* be an improvement... (I do go to tech conferences where I am one of a tiny handful of women--though I almost never get hit on, or maybe I'm oblivious to it.) I read that differently, and so I see it with a little more charity and less frustration. I see it as “when you aren’t the only one and women are commonplace here, you won’t be the exotic weirdo who gets attention for being the only one.” Not that men swarming female geeks because they are rare is a good thing, but making female geeks non-rare and thus not so interesting as to attract unwanted attention everywhere (as opposed to simply causing the attention to be spread around more) *would* be an improvement…

(I do go to tech conferences where I am one of a tiny handful of women–though I almost never get hit on, or maybe I’m oblivious to it.)

]]> By: Mark Terranova http://geekfeminism.org/2009/09/11/and-shes-cute-too/comment-page-1/#comment-930 Mark Terranova Mon, 14 Sep 2009 22:42:29 +0000 http://geekfeminism.org/?p=880#comment-930 Ubuntu is the first non-gender specific distibution (as far as I know.) There is a group of us starting to pull people aside (and correct them). When some of us in the Bay Area see sexist behavior we *cough* RMS *cough* or maybe mention anti-feminist-bingo. It goes over some people's heads. Others have responded kindly & been thankful for suggestions to better improve their reception. I am sorry that you must 'downplay' your appearance. That's sad. I look forward to people being able to express themselves in dress, hair (or lack of), in THEIR style & without having to worry about harassment. Ubuntu is the first non-gender specific distibution (as far as I know.) There is a group of us starting to pull people aside (and correct them). When some of us in the Bay Area see sexist behavior we *cough* RMS *cough* or maybe mention anti-feminist-bingo. It goes over some people’s heads. Others have responded kindly & been thankful for suggestions to better improve their reception.

I am sorry that you must ‘downplay’ your appearance. That’s sad. I look forward to people being able to express themselves in dress, hair (or lack of), in THEIR style & without having to worry about harassment.

]]> By: Mark Terranova http://geekfeminism.org/2009/09/11/and-shes-cute-too/comment-page-1/#comment-929 Mark Terranova Mon, 14 Sep 2009 22:26:34 +0000 http://geekfeminism.org/?p=880#comment-929 . Thank you for what you said. You are right. I appreciate the constructive critiques. I want to be able to stand up for what is right; but, not at the expense of offending (or slighting) those I am trying to ally help. We will bring up these ideas at one of our next meetings. Great post - I really like the dialog it has created. .

Thank you for what you said. You are right. I appreciate the constructive critiques. I want to be able to stand up for what is right; but, not at the expense of offending (or slighting) those I am trying to ally help. We will bring up these ideas at one of our next meetings. Great post – I really like the dialog it has created.

]]> By: laura http://geekfeminism.org/2009/09/11/and-shes-cute-too/comment-page-1/#comment-917 laura Mon, 14 Sep 2009 17:58:19 +0000 http://geekfeminism.org/?p=880#comment-917 My mother (who has a PhD in English, an MD, and a masters degree in science, just for good measure) usually responds to being called cute by saying, "You know, I have worked very hard to be a number of different things in my life. 'Cute' is not one of them." I love my mom. My mother (who has a PhD in English, an MD, and a masters degree in science, just for good measure) usually responds to being called cute by saying, “You know, I have worked very hard to be a number of different things in my life. ‘Cute’ is not one of them.” I love my mom.

]]> By: Juliet E McKenna http://geekfeminism.org/2009/09/11/and-shes-cute-too/comment-page-1/#comment-905 Juliet E McKenna Mon, 14 Sep 2009 08:18:43 +0000 http://geekfeminism.org/?p=880#comment-905 As a related aside, may I offer up <a>Deborah Tannen's essay - Marked Women, Unmarked Men</a>? As a related aside, may I offer up Deborah Tannen’s essay – Marked Women, Unmarked Men?

]]> By: Bec http://geekfeminism.org/2009/09/11/and-shes-cute-too/comment-page-1/#comment-886 Bec Sun, 13 Sep 2009 12:45:26 +0000 http://geekfeminism.org/?p=880#comment-886 Thank you for writing this :D Thank you for writing this :D

]]> By: Melissa http://geekfeminism.org/2009/09/11/and-shes-cute-too/comment-page-1/#comment-883 Melissa Sun, 13 Sep 2009 10:34:31 +0000 http://geekfeminism.org/?p=880#comment-883 No. I chose not to give any reason for people to hate on me for, y'know daring to make it known who may be a threat, just in case. Just sayin'. No. I chose not to give any reason for people to hate on me for, y’know daring to make it known who may be a threat, just in case. Just sayin’.

]]> By: Mackenzie http://geekfeminism.org/2009/09/11/and-shes-cute-too/comment-page-1/#comment-865 Mackenzie Sun, 13 Sep 2009 04:51:46 +0000 http://geekfeminism.org/?p=880#comment-865 Did you post the photo anywhere for the lulz? Did you post the photo anywhere for the lulz?

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