Comments on: Two genderfails from LiveJournal and its environs http://geekfeminism.org/2009/12/14/two-genderfails-from-livejournal-and-its-environs/ Women, feminism, and geek culture Fri, 10 Feb 2012 14:40:41 +0000 hourly 1 By: Across the Divide – 12/21/09 | The Border House http://geekfeminism.org/2009/12/14/two-genderfails-from-livejournal-and-its-environs/comment-page-1/#comment-3273 Across the Divide – 12/21/09 | The Border House Mon, 21 Dec 2009 17:40:57 +0000 http://geekfeminism.org/?p=1847#comment-3273 [...] LiveJournal had another gender fail, which they ended up rolling back. [...] [...] LiveJournal had another gender fail, which they ended up rolling back. [...]

]]> By: quartzpebble http://geekfeminism.org/2009/12/14/two-genderfails-from-livejournal-and-its-environs/comment-page-1/#comment-3240 quartzpebble Tue, 15 Dec 2009 23:54:56 +0000 http://geekfeminism.org/?p=1847#comment-3240 I think this is the best response that I've seen LiveJournal give for an issue like this. It takes users' concerns seriously, doesn't blame them for *having* concerns, and gives a clear explanation. I really don't like how they've handled some things in the past, but props to them on this one. I think this is the best response that I’ve seen LiveJournal give for an issue like this. It takes users’ concerns seriously, doesn’t blame them for *having* concerns, and gives a clear explanation. I really don’t like how they’ve handled some things in the past, but props to them on this one.

]]> By: Skud http://geekfeminism.org/2009/12/14/two-genderfails-from-livejournal-and-its-environs/comment-page-1/#comment-3239 Skud Tue, 15 Dec 2009 21:46:16 +0000 http://geekfeminism.org/?p=1847#comment-3239 Sure thing. Check your email shortly. Sure thing. Check your email shortly.

]]> By: Carrie http://geekfeminism.org/2009/12/14/two-genderfails-from-livejournal-and-its-environs/comment-page-1/#comment-3238 Carrie Tue, 15 Dec 2009 18:06:58 +0000 http://geekfeminism.org/?p=1847#comment-3238 It makes me so mad when people "punish" a person they don't like by disregarding hir preferred gender identity and pronouns. Just, no. Zie may be a terrible person, but hir gender identity is not relevant to the things zie's done. Furthermore, they're just showing their transphobia. It makes me so mad when people “punish” a person they don’t like by disregarding hir preferred gender identity and pronouns. Just, no. Zie may be a terrible person, but hir gender identity is not relevant to the things zie’s done. Furthermore, they’re just showing their transphobia.

]]> By: Daedala http://geekfeminism.org/2009/12/14/two-genderfails-from-livejournal-and-its-environs/comment-page-1/#comment-3237 Daedala Tue, 15 Dec 2009 18:05:38 +0000 http://geekfeminism.org/?p=1847#comment-3237 The changelog has been updated with the rollback. The changelog has been updated with the rollback.

]]> By: J.D. Hammond http://geekfeminism.org/2009/12/14/two-genderfails-from-livejournal-and-its-environs/comment-page-1/#comment-3236 J.D. Hammond Tue, 15 Dec 2009 16:04:40 +0000 http://geekfeminism.org/?p=1847#comment-3236 If you'd be willing, I'd like to take you up on an invite? If you’d be willing, I’d like to take you up on an invite?

]]> By: Becky http://geekfeminism.org/2009/12/14/two-genderfails-from-livejournal-and-its-environs/comment-page-1/#comment-3233 Becky Tue, 15 Dec 2009 13:59:49 +0000 http://geekfeminism.org/?p=1847#comment-3233 I contacted LJ support about it last night, and within six hours got the following reply: Thank you for taking the time to contact us with your concerns. We understand that gender is not binary, and intend to respect that understanding for our users. At this time, the code you reference is not live on the site, and will not become so in the future. We know that you, and many other users, have serious concerns about any requirement to specify gender, so we'd like to take a moment to explain events and our position further. The intention of this code was to change the sign-up process to include a field for the selection of gender; that the code would completely disable the "Unspecified" option at the same time was deemed unacceptable. While the code in question had gone to our beta (testing) server, it had not gone to our production server, and will not do so due to this problem. Furthermore, we'd like to clarify that code posted to the changelog community is not always final, as such code must then go through the beta testing process and can often be changed before actual implementation. Additionally, some erroneous information has been spread regarding the potential public display of the gender field. We would like to clarify that gender is not currently publicly displayed on the profile, nor anywhere else on the site, and there are no plans to change this behavior. Regards, LiveJournal Community Care Team I contacted LJ support about it last night, and within six hours got the following reply:

Thank you for taking the time to contact us with your concerns. We understand that gender is not binary, and intend to respect that understanding for our users.

At this time, the code you reference is not live on the site, and will not become so in the future. We know that you, and many other users, have serious concerns about any requirement to specify gender, so we’d like to take a moment to explain events and our position further.

The intention of this code was to change the sign-up process to include a field for the selection of gender; that the code would completely disable the “Unspecified” option at the same time was deemed unacceptable. While the code in question had gone to our beta (testing) server, it had not gone to our production server, and will not do so due to this problem. Furthermore, we’d like to clarify that code posted to the changelog community is not always final, as such code must then go through the beta testing process and can often be changed before actual implementation.

Additionally, some erroneous information has been spread regarding the potential public display of the gender field. We would like to clarify that gender is not currently publicly displayed on the profile, nor anywhere else on the site, and there are no plans to change this behavior.

Regards,
LiveJournal Community Care Team

]]> By: Andrew Ducker http://geekfeminism.org/2009/12/14/two-genderfails-from-livejournal-and-its-environs/comment-page-1/#comment-3230 Andrew Ducker Tue, 15 Dec 2009 08:35:56 +0000 http://geekfeminism.org/?p=1847#comment-3230 Denise got a reply,saying that that code would not go live. Presumably thanks to all the email that they got. Denise got a reply,saying that that code would not go live. Presumably thanks to all the email that they got.

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