Comments on: Open thread: hello from the future http://geekfeminism.org/2009/12/31/open-thread-hello-from-the-future/ Women, feminism, and geek culture Fri, 10 Feb 2012 14:40:41 +0000 hourly 1 By: Peter http://geekfeminism.org/2009/12/31/open-thread-hello-from-the-future/comment-page-1/#comment-3366 Peter Tue, 05 Jan 2010 11:39:51 +0000 http://geekfeminism.org/?p=1924#comment-3366 Hey GF, Must have been something in the water ... on new years eve, I was sat envisioning the future of IT service management (not hardcore geek I admit, but geeky enough I figure...) and I came up with some ideas about how feminism can help extract ITSM from this somewhat obdurate and masculine hole that it has perhaps dug itself into. Actually I say it's a blog entry, it's more like an essay. But maybe you'd like to read it. http://psychitsm.blogspot.com/2009/12/futures-1-women-in-it.html P Hey GF,

Must have been something in the water … on new years eve, I was sat envisioning the future of IT service management (not hardcore geek I admit, but geeky enough I figure…) and I came up with some ideas about how feminism can help extract ITSM from this somewhat obdurate and masculine hole that it has perhaps dug itself into.

Actually I say it’s a blog entry, it’s more like an essay. But maybe you’d like to read it.

http://psychitsm.blogspot.com/2009/12/futures-1-women-in-it.html

P

]]> By: Mary http://geekfeminism.org/2009/12/31/open-thread-hello-from-the-future/comment-page-1/#comment-3338 Mary Sun, 03 Jan 2010 01:03:04 +0000 http://geekfeminism.org/?p=1924#comment-3338 I'd enjoy that, but I'd prefer that the core games included far more material by women (as songwriters and performers). One of the things that came up in the Hottest 100 discussion was that rock history is revisionist, disappearing women as time goes on. There were plenty of women in grunge, for example, who were admired and fanboyed at the time, but they've vanished from the greatest hits of your youth parades and the men haven't. A great deal of the defence of the poll was along the lines of "yeah, but women didn't really break into music until very recently" (on a poll which mostly turned up post-1970s music!) I’d enjoy that, but I’d prefer that the core games included far more material by women (as songwriters and performers).

One of the things that came up in the Hottest 100 discussion was that rock history is revisionist, disappearing women as time goes on. There were plenty of women in grunge, for example, who were admired and fanboyed at the time, but they’ve vanished from the greatest hits of your youth parades and the men haven’t. A great deal of the defence of the poll was along the lines of “yeah, but women didn’t really break into music until very recently” (on a poll which mostly turned up post-1970s music!)

]]> By: Leigh Honeywell http://geekfeminism.org/2009/12/31/open-thread-hello-from-the-future/comment-page-1/#comment-3337 Leigh Honeywell Sun, 03 Jan 2010 00:55:51 +0000 http://geekfeminism.org/?p=1924#comment-3337 Rock Band is just as bad as far as having very few women artists. Makes me cranky, I wish they'd at least do a women-only track pack or something! Rock Band is just as bad as far as having very few women artists. Makes me cranky, I wish they’d at least do a women-only track pack or something!

]]> By: Mary http://geekfeminism.org/2009/12/31/open-thread-hello-from-the-future/comment-page-1/#comment-3332 Mary Thu, 31 Dec 2009 21:46:25 +0000 http://geekfeminism.org/?p=1924#comment-3332 December 31 in Sydney, as no doubt in almost all Western cities, did not strike me as a good night to be well away from home and nine months pregnant, so I had a much geekier New Years than I normally would. (Normally some combination of food, fireworks and music would suit me.) We had a four person game of <em>Cities and Knights of Catan</em>, which I didn't win, although as I've only played it twice I was pleased with my patient and successful construction of the cloth metropolis. And we played <em>Guitar Hero 5</em> and <em>Mario Kart Wii</em> until it showed that our reaction times were unacceptably sleep and/or beer depressed, depending on guest. There was a lot of reaction in Australia this year to a <a href="http://www.abc.net.au/triplej/hottest100_alltime/" rel="nofollow">Hottest 100 of All Time</a> music poll by an alternative music station, which included only two female vocalists (both appearing on Massive Attack tracks as co-writers of their material) and not many songs with any women instrumentalists either. Playing Guitar Hero, which has only very slightly better representation of women than that, makes me wonder how much that franchise is responsible for my age group's sense of the history of rock. Confidential to Guitar Hero: women rock too... December 31 in Sydney, as no doubt in almost all Western cities, did not strike me as a good night to be well away from home and nine months pregnant, so I had a much geekier New Years than I normally would. (Normally some combination of food, fireworks and music would suit me.) We had a four person game of Cities and Knights of Catan, which I didn’t win, although as I’ve only played it twice I was pleased with my patient and successful construction of the cloth metropolis. And we played Guitar Hero 5 and Mario Kart Wii until it showed that our reaction times were unacceptably sleep and/or beer depressed, depending on guest.

There was a lot of reaction in Australia this year to a Hottest 100 of All Time music poll by an alternative music station, which included only two female vocalists (both appearing on Massive Attack tracks as co-writers of their material) and not many songs with any women instrumentalists either. Playing Guitar Hero, which has only very slightly better representation of women than that, makes me wonder how much that franchise is responsible for my age group’s sense of the history of rock. Confidential to Guitar Hero: women rock too…

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